gently pushing my way through We are again in such a time of reckoning. He is under no obligation to save anyone, so no man can ask Him what have you done? when He chooses to save one and not another. Thank you for your ministry in the CRC, from church planting in Orlando to established congregations in farming communities in Michigan. I was raised a United Methodist in a very conservative, yet loving congregation. Others, trying to be nice, trying to hold their churches together, trying not to poke the bear, or just trying to keep the budget solvent, tolerated or sought to appease the Trump-factions of their congregations. Thank you brother for sharing this, Im not alone. As a UCC Pastor with a Dutch Reformed family heritage, I enjoy going to Worship Symposiums at Calvin but also feel like a stranger in a strange land. Can you post the name. We have taken different paths, yet our tie still binds. Lou Okma. First, I left my congregation to protest religious Trumpism, and, following that, found myself in a spiritual wilderness. At the same time, I embarked on a two-year training process for chaplaincy. Mr. Beaver could tell from the look in Edmunds eyes that he had been with the Queen/White Witch, eaten her food, and was no longer on the side of the fauns and the animals. Even G. Campbell Morgan admitted this. There are many in the CRCpastors, elders, deacons, and congregantsincluding dear friends and mentors of minewho are giving their best intellectual and spiritual gifts to help the CRC find a more Jesus-like way. Please re-read your comment from 1/19/19 about N Sandmann. your story is great encouragement. He doesnt just superficially accept or tolerate barnacles. Thank you for your ability to verbalize this well. I was safe inside the door, And if youre dead honest with yourself, your super-tight dogma doesnt work for you, either. That you love Jesus. I can see how some choose to stay with it and respect that choice, but its not lost on me either that well over 90% of the comments here are in support of Keiths article. Never plan to. If Donald Trump revealed the heart of white evangelicalism, he also altered the brain-chemistry of the Christian Reformed Church. Who does? The thing that is very wrong about DOG is that you say that we dont deserve to be saved. This is not meant to bash TVC, or any of their staff or members. Keith, The struggles to support genuine faith over culture are much the same over all. We survived. I worked on a suicide unit at a mental health hospital, and then for a year as a resident chaplain in a Tier-1 trauma hospital. The problem is the annointed teachers, and the self-proclaimed arm chair teachers who will be given an account for breeding this self-righteousness, and lack of biblical discernment. The UCC allows its believers the freedom to live with the tension. They role around with Matt Chandler screaming in their ear buds, and are carrying noticeable pride against fellow Christians. When the world loves you, beware. I have been a chaplain my whole career after having served a congregation. And they stand decisively for human dignity and justice. Thank you! Points of contention include questions over whether LGBTQ weddings can be held in Reformed churches, whether Reformed pastors can officiate LGBTQ weddings, and whether or not LGBTQ individuals can be ordained in the church. T.S. Try again later. Everything Ive ever wanted to say and much much more. Does he approve of those who part ways for serious doctrinal disagreements, as he did, or does he not? God bless the work hes doing. I only have a short while, now, to learn, and to function differently. Please let me know if youd be willing to get together! the thoughtful comments have been a great encouragement! Never voted for him! Excellent article. I find this vision and attitude exemplified in the particular UCC church I attend. Rhapsodize all you want about belonging, but if the unworthy people I am meeting every day, who are friends of Jesus, are barred from your table, then I would rather go over to their house, and ask if they would allow me at their table. Sure, he threw in some truth but so did Satanand he did it to Jesus to His face! He demonstrated this with his open, safe, non-violent, and protective presence. I dont wish to enter an unwieldy debate in the comments section here, but I do think it important to mention that Reformed doctrine (also called the Doctrines of Grace) does not in any way, shape or form lead to a tyrannical God who creates sin and punishes people for not choosing Him. I have been attacked by only three groups of people: militant atheists, a handful of fanatics from Steven Furticks church, and Reformed Calvinists. The "Nones" give many reasons for breaking away. Of course, we are still brothers in Christ, and we are both part of Gods Kingdom which is (fortunately) much broader than the CRC. J.S. "The Catholic church is dying a painful death in full view of the public," he told German media. I remember being totally amazed at how open UCC members are and the concept that they do not look at all the rules we grew up with. inside and outside Silence surrounded us for a few moments, and then I ventured to tell him my heart: Yeah, I get it. One more thing. Would like to know which UCC church that is. but true enough, I feel this article to the core of my being. In the early days of the church, a believer would have to move to another town to find a different church. Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way, Excellence in Education Award Nominations. Please make checks out to Reformed Journal and mailed to: Finding My Voice - The Reformed Journal Blog. Crudely stated, it means in practice We love you, but we love you a lot more if you become one of us. I have always wanted to formally study and articulate a pastoral and personal theology of religious accommodation, but have not been able to do so. | The Official Blog Of God's Only Inerrant Party, How To Cut Someone Off The "Christian" Way, Ugly Asian Male: On Being the Least Attractive Guy in the Room. As you said, the important thing is to be truthful in gentleness, not arrogance, in the name of Christ. Your pastoral heart & thoughtful mind have never left me. I did not consciously reject The CRC (we moved to an area where there was not one) but I found in the Congregational Church a sense of welcome, openness, and room for questioning that I had never before known. Please continue to pray for us who have chosen to stay, who look for a better way and who are regularly warned by others to watch what we say. It maintained that the church's beliefs are "very much in line" with those of Southern Baptists and has no intention of changing that. HOLLAND, Mich. As the Reformed Church in America grapples with conflict over how to deal with the topic of LGBTQ+ inclusion, congregations in the nations oldest Protestant denomination are facing a choice: stay or go. I still think Reformed theology is pretty sound, though its been shaped and re-shaped and challenged over the years to respect other faith traditions. We have been in a number of different denominations and churches all our lives, exposed to varieties of theology, but Calvinism, in our personal experience, is far and away the one that is the most divisive and destructive. They reinforced a belief that every once in a historical while, spiritually dead and misguided religion must reckon with the human souls unquenchable desire for peace with God. I didnt do a good job of making that more clear. The word Reformed refers to exactly that kind of church. Giving up bishops is really the biggest leap, but I simply don't feel concerned about this matter. Thanks for sharing your story with us. I also think the Reformed movement has calmed down a bit (especially with Mark Driscolls resignation) and the Christian culture is once again leaning on a different movement, as it always does, just like we had the Seeker-Sensitive Movement before the Reformed one. We needed to understand, so we could make the decision to stay or leave. Though they were technically the same . As she lay in hospice at 103 she was visted by a host of people, agnostic, AG, Muslim. I could go on and on. I felt like I was standing on the edge of the Grand Canyonthe book stuff from the UCC study materials was actually being lived out and expressed, with color and majesty, right in front of me. But what I cannot understand is when those who claim to love Jesus destroy others who love Jesus. None of us get it right every time and were all still learning. It says volumes. Thanks for sharing your heart on this, its too bad that too many tribes in the Christian camp are more known by their disagreement and debates and divisive doctrines, rather than words and deeds that prompt all kinds of people to praise God in heaven. The ivory tower of Neo-Calvinism has reached so high, Im not sure what the point is anymore. I no longer wanted anything to do with it. A child can however, understand the basic truth of John 3:16-18. JS, I used to think it was pretty sound until I realized how insidious it really is, (Email notifications for comments are sent with JS Park as the sender, which is the source of the confusion for some, thinking it was you who wrote the replies. I shouldve clarified this distinction much better (Ive received similar questions through my Tumblr). I also have cut ties with these people after years of their meddling, argumentative, nitpicking, arrogant, and legalistic ways. J.S. I am still deciding whether to stay or go from the CRC. Thats the trouble with growing up in Mr Rogers Neighborhood. Thank you. Been there and done that (left the CRC, that is), years ago. I splashed water for baptisms in ways that stretched and broke my previous definitions. Wow David. You have put into words the profound disease that has enveloped so many of our friends and relatives within and outside of the church. When I read YouTube comments and Christian blog comments, there really isnt that much difference. If your theology does not encourage you, but condemns you and puts you on eggshells and makes you constantly anxious about "having right doctrine," that's pretty lame. Whatever religion, sexual ethics, or politics aligns with these requirements is what Christians should be advocating. All that I had believed for a lifetime and preached across three decades of ordained ministry could not keep up with what Jesus was teaching me on that suicide unit, and in that war-zone of a hospital. If your theology does not encourage you, but condemns you and puts you on eggshells and makes you constantly anxious about having right doctrine, thats pretty lame. Not to be a Pharisee, but any doctrine that eliminates free will and personal accountability, makes God into an intergalactic tyrant that was the author of everything, including sin, must not be ignored. I believed, in that moment, Jesus was there, between us. He doesnt just superficially accept or tolerate barnacles. Calvinist bloggers only stimulate other Calvinist bloggers. I absolutely agree with you 100%! Gods people are as numerous as the stars in the heavens. The question now is why. Thank you for this long but insightful story of your journey. It speaks volumes. Dan Ackerman, director of spiritual leadership for the newly formed Alliance of Reformed Churches, told FOX 17 that 45 churches have already indicated they will leave the RCA for the ARC. Serving as a chaplain, the spiritual house of my construction crumpled like wet cardboard. Heartfelt and articulate. Thank you. Passing him by. Second, from the same book, an illustration about barnacles from Sharon H. Ringe captivated me. It was my 9 years as a Choir Director in a UCC Congregation that opened my heart and mind the most, and led to a re-formation of my faith. He is a gifted communicator with a passion for equipping the Church, and in particular young people, to make the case for the Christian faith. We are now in an affirming RCA congregation, just having survived a denominational schism. In some places today, a church sits on seemingly every corner, and, sadly, many believers leave one church for another down the street instead of working through whatever . I often feel the word powerful is overused. Third, I witnessed a panel discussion with three UCC pastors: an older white male from the conservative/traditional wing of the denomination; an African American male; and a Queer woman who is married to another woman. The fact that you have truth in the pulpit means you are not free to just leave, but there is something nourishing in being part of a community that shares in your understanding of the faith. Reading this, I am filled with gratitude for my own (non-Trump) inclusive and progressive local CRC congregation. Eventually, I had to leave, but right before I crossed the threshold of his door, he said, Hey Chaplainjust so you know, about ten minutes ago, I started believing in God again.. Christ calls us into peace with God, unencumbered by earthly agendas and liberated from human judgments and bullying. Im a committed Never Trumper. As a Reformed believer (and I dont mean Presbyterian), I have to say how disheartening it is that so much of what you said about the Neo-(and non-neo) Calvinist movement truly is. This is not meant to bash TVC, or any of their staff or members. Zealots for a religion of therapeutic pluralism?? I have chosen to stay if at all possible. I wrote this four years ago and I was rather angry when it was written. In contrast, the inspect the walls for breaches and require conformity approach seemed small and pathetic. Reformed pastors love the Reformationthe nailing of 95 theses to the door, the "Here I stand" moment, the wonder of one man facing down the corrupt power of a Pharisaical empire. Not everything is about Trump. Maybe if more of us all realized we have all broken this commandment (at the very least in our minds) we wouldnt be so judgemental. The Last Reformation is a movement, founded by Torben Sndergaard in Denmark in 2011, with a core message of returning the church to the "true gospel" and the practices found in the book of Acts. You are thriving because you are expanding your ministry base, some new people to reach. It is not uncommon to see the proverbial "shotgun" approach of bombarding individuals . Active pastors knew their sanctuary platforms were powder kegs, and their congregational leaders were coming to church each Sunday with their tithes in one pocket and matches in the other. Its just too ridiculous to even talk about. At age 75, Im the last remaining CRC member in my immediate family that represents four generations of loyal, faithful commitment and service. No doubt, we were stubborn. I say Amen! to it all. I continue to be very disappointed and troubled, but it does entirely surprise me, at what has happened to the CRC. Thank You for putting your heart out there. Sad. Ill save all the reformed believers out there time: theres no need to tell me in love that I just dont understand Calvinism, because after three years of studying it, I will be the first to admit I dont understand this baffling theology that so many have made a hill to die on. I can tell you: Disillusionment sucks. We believed, as Reformed people, in considering matters carefully and with biblical discernment. inside and outside, This violence expressed itself in your congregation and also at your Synod. It had two branchesthe first being founded by Dutch settlers in 1628 (Dutch Reformed branch) and the second being formed by German immigrants in the early 1700s (German Reformed branch). Today it has fewer than 200,000 members and 1,000 churches. Agreed, there are jerks everywhere: and in fact, even the nicest people have their bad days in the pulpit or the blog-world. Keith and his wife Alicia are members of the Holland United Church of Christ in Holland, Michigan. The topic of LGBTQ inclusion has been a flash point in the RCA for decades and is now coming to a head. We deeply disagree on our views, and we are deep friends in Christ. The other two panelists warmly affirmed his words. God does love us all. Some days of chaplaincy were just normal workdays, and sometimes my heart remained unmoved. My story isnt too different from yours. Unfortunatley, we see all kinds of theological camps that have made their belief system an idol and do much harm with their condescending and unloving postures. Some very conservative people are sad about the conflict in the RCA and the departure of some of their friends from the RCA, continued Griswold. Id gladly take a bullet or be tortured to death for Jesus or for my fellow friend. It seems quite odd to me that a wealthy playboy from New York City could have such an effect on us all. The barnacle story also made me think hard about how I have welcomed people. Your journey sounds like mine in so many ways; 10 years ago, I tore down to walls of conservative evangelical Christianity, and was amazed at how Jesus went right along with me, encouraging, guiding, blessing every step. What Forgiveness Is and Is Not: Seven Rules of Forgiveness, Theology Is Complete with Our Hands and Feet. The church has 21 million members, according to 2022 figures, amounting to 24.8% of the population. With all my heart, I admire and love them. As the world is collapsing around us, sincere souls are seeking succor from the church and are not finding it. I thank the Lord we hear no trumpism from the pulpit, but its still present in our dividing. I just cant decide. I suspect that a form of Religious Trumpism was always there. The CRC **DIDNT CHANGE** and then you blame it on Trump?? I pray that love will overcome division. Perhaps the mistake was made in the beginning by calling it the Christian Reformed Church instead of the Christian Reforming Church. You said everything I have experienced. My pastor expresses this in our church every Sunday morning: No matter who you are, how you identify, who you love, or where you are on lifes journey: know that you are welcome here, and that you are loved by God.. Follow FOX 17: Facebook - Twitter - Instagram - YouTube, Church historian says large denomination splits are uncommon in religious history. One of the reasons: the Reformed Church in America's wavering approach to same-sex marriages. Its now scheduled for late summer 2022. oh, how the Lord comforts his people! Here, the saltine cracker, and the grape juice: the gifts of God for the people of Godfor any humble, suffering, desirous soul. I hope these three related concepts may be as uplifting for you as they are for me: First this, from Daniel L. Johnson and Charles Hambrick-Stowe: While some denominations establish their identity by inspecting the walls for breaches and requiring those persons inside to conform to essential standards, the United Church of Christ characteristically has held the gates open wide and cultivated diversity. The authors continue: To recognize this posture as characteristic is to see that love for those who differ, desire to learn by dialogue, and tolerance of ambiguity are important parts of our identity in Christ. And then: This is by no means an excuse for doctrinal laziness. Vulnerability speaks to my soul. The difference is, the CRC will no longer allow anyone to sit shoulder to shoulder with someone who doesnt agree. on which side are you? thank you for speaking to the heart of the issue. He takes everyone in, and doesnt put up with preferential treatment, entitlement, or power games. I left ministry in the CRC when I was 50 and, after a few years in the RCA, found a new home in the PCUSA. At the consummation, God fills all in all. Third, I studied the United Church of Christ, and was captivated by three spiritual conceptsincluding a story about barnacleswhich have helped me find peace and spiritual direction. Not angry just sad. I am walking in more joy, LESS SIN, and more love than ever since I started to understand the love of God and his heart for us. Jesus was not a Reformed Calvinist. I didnt know where Jesus was, but I was pretty dang sure where he wasnt. I became Presbyterian before I turned thirty, and pretty much fresh out of Calvin. I only have a short while, now, to learn, and to function differently.. This is confusing. The article and these responses are a healthy dialog for the church. By approving the Human Sexuality Report and locking it in as confessional, and by initiating attempts at church discipline for those who believed differently, it elected to play Religious Whack-A-Mole with a Bible-mallet. Impasses over certain. I wish you well an encourage you to continue on your quest for the truth. The humble denomination of my upbringing was gone. I rummaged around in staff break rooms for crackers and sugary grape juice, offering these bargain-basement elements as holy sacraments to people with only the slightest impulse of faith. Thank you for this question. These people cannot even capitulate on dietary minutiae! YES. Despite some overwhelming votes to leave the RCA, Griswold says classis leaders still need to approve the split. On the one hand, the author calls out wrongs he sees in his former CRC denomination, namely religious Trumpism (a poisoning of the simple gospel of Jesus), and church discipline for opposing beliefs (after the Human Sexuality Report was approved by the CRC). I get it if you're at a church where the Gospel is preached, but, say, the nuances of the Reformed faith are ignored. Looking back, Im so thankful God brought me out of this movement. Then a few pages later, he advocates the way of his new UCC denomination, because they represent a lack of judgment. This isnt a debate. God forbid, you have a biological related mental disorder and they lable you as spiritually defective and not one of the *Elect* Talk about growing up in fear as a child!! Learn how your comment data is processed. One CRC Pastor didnt think the UCC was Reformed. Exiting churches can retain control of their churches and church property even if they go. Must you weigh down people with correct-gospel-you-guys who are struggling with bills, sickness, patients coding, bullets flying, businesses tanking, and rights taken? Be blessed in the freedom of the Spirit. Thank you Raphael, that makes sense. Our stated goal from the beginning has never been this universal capitulation. I savored every word and phrase of your story. But while many churches that have held votes to leave are seeing overwhelming support like the Fellowship Reformed Church congregation in Hudsonville voting 604 to 9 to leave some RCA church leaders see that as more the exception than the rule. . Thank you so much for your post on Reformed theology! I resonate with your love for people who stay in the CRCsometimes at great riskwho are trying to promote a more beautiful Gospel there. I think Ill go for a ride on my donkey. Copyright 2021 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. Study the original Greek to see if these things are true. Nobody here is boasting as you say, about being savedthat would be absurd and is a common charge leveled by many Calvinists upon those who would dare question DOG. whee, wee, we Please consider replying over at his blog, which is hyperlinked to his name. Thank you, Keith. That mankind goes into slavery of the will, of their own free will does not make God a tyrant by any means. Still love it, still have many friends there, but just cant stomach where it was headed, even then.
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